Sunday, September 25, 2016

Jung says that Ramana's desire to escape the ego is Self-contradictory, because, without the Maharishi’s personal ego, there would be no Shri Ramana at all.+



Jung says that Ramana's desire to escape the ego is Self-contradictory, because, without Maharishi’s personal ego, there would be no Shri Ramana at all.

Most of the Indian teaching is so overwhelmingly great that it means little whether the author is called 
Ramakrishna or Vivekananda or Shri Aurobindo, etc. Jung seems to be saying "If you have seen one Indian holy man, you have seen them all."

Jung says that the Indian lacks the epistemological standpoint; he is still pre-Kantian, with no psychology: To the Indian, it is clear that the Self as the originating ground of the psyche is not different from God, and that, so far as a man is in the Self, he is not only contained in God but actually is God.
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Santthosh Kumaar:~ Many Gurus in the past believed the Self is within the body and they imagine and write their own theories on it and propagated. 

The Self is not within the physical body, but the world in which the body (you) exists is within the Soul. The body-based theories are nothing to do with the Atmic path. The Soul, the Self is bodiless because it is ever formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

The Soul which is present in the form of consciousness pervades everything and everywhere in all three states. Everything is consciousness. There is no second thing that exists other than consciousness.

The one who says he is already enlightened is ignorant. The person who says I am enlightened is unaware of the fact that the Self is not he, because of him and his experience of the world, is the product of ignorance. 

Only the ignorant say he is already enlightened. Without Advaitic wisdom, ignorance will not vanish.

The one which says ‘I am enlightened’ itself is the ego. The one which feels it is he or she is also the ego. The ego is the false Self (you or waking entity) within the false experience (waking). The ego, body, and the world appear together and disappear together. 

It is foolish to venture to try to destroy the ego because the ego is the very basis of physical existence (the universe in, which we exist).

People say I AM THAT ~ I am God, I am Brahman. But when Brahman is, how can "I" remain? Only Brahman remains, not I, it is erroneous to use the word ‘I’ for the Self, because ‘I’ represents form, time, and space whereas the Soul, the Self is a formless, timeless and spaceless existence.

It is erroneous to identify the Soul, the Self as the 'I' or 'I AM' because the Soul the  Self is not 'I' or I AM’. The Soul the  Self, is that witnesses the coming and going, of the 'I'.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ “The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)

The ‘I’ disappears as deep sleep, so what is the use of being attached to it? It is impermanent and illusory because ‘I’ is physical awareness. Physical awareness is not Self-awareness. ‘I-less awareness is Self-awareness.

To understand the false nature of the ‘I’, Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is necessary.

The Self is not ‘I’, but the Self is the Soul which is the witness of the ‘I’. Holding the ‘I as the Self leads to hallucination based on the imagination.


Remember:~

The ego, body, and the world are the product of ignorance. Without ignorance, the ego, body, and world cease to exist. Thus getting rid of ignorance is very much necessary. Only through Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana, the ignorance vanishes.

The people who are venturing to get rid of their egos will never succeed. How the ego can get rid of itself. The ego is the waking entity (You). The ego, body, and the world appear together and disappear together.

Human psychology is based on the false self (ego or waking entity or you) within the false experience (waking or illusion). Whatever is based on the false Self and false experience is bound to be a falsehood. 

Thus, a perfect understanding ‘what is what’ is needed to realize the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.

Thus, one must realize how this world, which confronts him, is an illusion? And from what standpoint the world is an illusion. Without knowing ‘what is mind? ‘What is the substance of the mind?’ ‘What is the source of the mind? The truth will not reveal. 

Thinking the mind is within the physical body is the greatest obstacle in the pursuit of truth. Thus, a deeper investigation is very much necessary in order to unfold the mystery of the mind.

Nothing is needed for acquiring Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana other than perfect understanding, assimilation, and realization of ‘what is what”

The dualistic illusion is present only when form, time and space are present. Form, time, and space are one, in essence. The ego, body, and the world are one, in essence. Birth, life, death, and the world are one, in essence. The three states are one, in essence. That essence is consciousness. 

The thinker & thoughts and the world are one, in essence. Thus, there is no division in consciousness in reality.

The Soul, the Self is the fullness of consciousness without the illusory division of For, time, and space.


Remember:~

The dissolution of the ego alone is not the step to the realization of the truth hidden by ignorance. The ego, body, and the world appear together and they disappear together. The ego, body, and the world appear together as ‘I’. 

Without ‘I’ there is no ego, no physical body, and no world. ‘I’ is not limited to the physical entity but ‘I’ is the mind. The mind is present in the form of the universe. The universe appears as waking or dream (duality (I)) and disappears as deep sleep (non-duality).

The one which appears as waking or dream (duality) and disappears as deep sleep(nonduality) is the Soul which is in the form of consciousness.

The Soul is the Self. The Soul is the witness of the three states (witnessed). The witness and the witnessed (three states) are one in essence. That essence is consciousness. 

Thus, there is no second thing that exists other than consciousness. Consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman. Only getting rid of ignorance through wisdom is the only way, which leads to Advaitic Self-Awareness in the midst of duality.

Till you think you are an individual separate from the world and world that existed prior to you and you are born in it afterward ignorance will prevail as a reality. Till ignorance is there the ‘I’ prevails as reality. 


If the ‘I’ prevails as reality then the world in which you exist prevails as a reality. If the world in which you exist as a reality then the dualistic illusion is experienced as a reality.

Perfect understanding of ‘what is what’ helps you to overcome ignorance (I). Until ‘I’ is there the ignorance is there. Until ignorance is there you will not be able to unfold the mystery hidden by the ‘I’.:~Santthosh Kumaar 

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