Saturday, September 30, 2017

People are ignorant of the God in Vedas even though they speak of Vedas. There is no reference to the personal Gods in Vedas.+


People are ignorant of God in Vedas even though they speak of Vedas. There is no reference to the personal Gods in Vedas.   
God is universal because God is impersonal. God does not belong to any religion because religious Gods are personal.
Religious Gods are not God in truth. Bible says “God is a Spirit, and they that worship God must worship God in spirit and in truth. Rig Veda says may ye never accept another God in place of the Atman (Spirit) nor worship other than the Atman. Yajurveda says God cannot be seen directly by anyone. God pervades all beings and all directions. 

Remember:~

Hindus are idol worshipers of a large number of Gods and Goddesses whereas Idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas.

The Vedas do not talk about idol worship. In fact, until about 2000 years ago followers of Vedism never worshipped idols. Idol worship was started by the followers of Buddhism and Jains. There is logic to idol worship. Vedas speak of one God that is the supreme Self i.e. Atman or Soul but Hinduism indulges in worshiping 60 million Gods.

Yajur Veda – Chapter- 32: - God is Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ (idol) or material shape. He cannot be seen directly by anyone. He pervades all beings and all directions.

Yajurveda: ~ There is no image of God in truth. God in truth is unborn and eternal. (Chapter 32, Verse 3)

Yajur Veda: ~ God in truth is nondual and pure."

Yajurveda: ~ "They are entering darkness, those who worship the natural things (like air, water, fire, etc.), they are sinking more in darkness who worship created things." (Chapter 40, Verse 9)

Thus, Idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas.

Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma'- Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

God in truth is the Atman, the Self. Atman is present in the form of consciousness. Do not accept any other God other than Atman not worship other than Atman. Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

Nothing is real but God. Nothing Matters but love for God in truth. God in truth is everywhere and in everything.

God in truth is hidden by the illusory universe. God in truth alone is and all else is an illusion.

Rig Veda: ~ The Atman (Soul or Spirit) is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman, the Self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

Thus it refers to a formless and attributeless God, which is the Atman (Soul), the Self within the false experience.
Thus it indicates clearly all the Gods with form and attributes are mere imaginations based on the false self. Thus, Atman or Soul, the Self is God in truth.

Ishopanishad says: ~ “They are steeped in ignorance and sunk into the greatest depth of misery who worships the matter, instead of the All-Pervading God and those who worship things born of matter like trees, animals, man, etc. are sunk deeper in misery." : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Advaita is nothing but the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth.+


Advaita is not a religion or religious sect or philosophy. Advaita is the nature of the Atman or  God. Advaita is nothing but the ultimate truth or Brahman or  God in truth. 
Religion and mysticism are so much preferred to Advaitic Gnana because you have only to imagine, not to inquire. The first is easy, the second is hard. 

There is in religion the element of imagination. People think that religion which they like better, which gives them satisfaction, which pleases their taste, is true! Such is the limited view of the ignorant populace but a Gnani discards these. How do they know that what has given them peace and satisfaction is the truth?

Religion and mysticism are a species of mesmerism affecting a weaker or impressionable mindset. 

Thus the panoply of a Guru’s religious robes creates an unconscious suggestion in weaker minds of superior power or magical knowledge. Similarly, visitors to ashrams are suggested to think they experience great peace because they are unconsciously hypnotized into believing that will happen. But when a strong and philosophic-minded person meets a Guru or visits an ashram, he is entirely unaffected.

The truth of religion and its idea of God can only be proved by physical strength or imagination, or power of the weapon or worldly power, never by reason.

Remember:~

People like religion because religion belongs to the world of sentiments and emotions. You will always find it in primitive times, as now, linked with music, dancing, and art--both emotional expressions. 

Religion changes as it appeals to different emotions. You will find at one pole the nude saint is admired; at the other, the gorgeously-dressed Godmen is revered. Religious believers take their feelings as truth whereas a Gnani takes his reasoned judgment, which will be the same under test everywhere in the world.

Religion is the truth of the ignorant populace. Advaita is the universal truth. The religious people who treat the subject of God usually write the largest books without knowing what God is supposed to be in actuality according to their own scriptures. This is because they have a plethora of words only to offer.  Belief in religious prohibitions arises out of fear of God's punishment.

Every religionist has a different idea of God. Every man has a different idea of the real. Hence, there is a need for definition before the study.

There is nothing so absurd that men have not worshipped in religion, nor sacrificial forms of worship so cruel which have not been indulged in. And every imaginable face has been given to   God from the tribal to artists; some have made him with wild faces, some with present-looking faces.

Those whose minds are agitated, troubled, and unhappy find tranquility at Ashrams, because there was a sorrowful disturbance of the mind, probably over women or money, etc. But that is because they do not know the truth and they mistake this peace for Brahman. It merely indicates the state of mind possessed on arrival at Ashram; they had a mental disease and the ashram cured it for the time. There was no permanent cure however without the Advaitic Gnana, and religion and yoga do not yield Advaitic Gnana.

Unless a man is a fool, he will never be an atheist. How does an atheist know that God does not exist? It is for every one of us to realize what God is supposed to be in actuality.

Each caste and sect concocts a God to suit its own purposes.  Such concocted Gods are merely a superstition.

It is impossible to prove the existence of God by any reasoning because religious Gods are based on the belief not based on truth. 

It is easier for people to remain in the religious fold. After all, it makes no demand on the intelligent because it simply requires belief propagated by it. 

Religion is so strong and popular because it is easier to accept belief it is difficult to seek the truth hidden by ignorance. 

Has it ever struck religious believers to doubt whether their religion is true? Religious believers never use their reason because they start and conclude that their religion alone is true because they never question.

You may believe in a position, but you are required to prove the truth of your belief. A belief is a feeling, and the ultimate truth is the true knowledge.

Theological philosophers say God is a perfect being, but they have never known God and never proved his existence; hence their ascription of perfection to God is purely self-imagined.

According to their imagination, is the paradise or heaven of religious believers, but where people have little thinking capacity, they begin to disbelieve through the contradictions of various contending orthodox claims and descriptions.

Remember:~

Mystics see visions of Gods and Goddesses and adapt according to their own religious conditioning.

The garbage of religious beliefs dogmas superstition is confounded with the human imagination. The glory of the religious Gods is hyped and obscured by so much tinsel and commercialism.

Spirituality is not theology.  Advaita is not a philosophy but Advaita is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God. Advaita is Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana or knowledge of the Spirit or God in truth.

The word “Advaita” is one without the second.  Advaita essentially refers to the Atman and the whole existence. Advaita is the fullness of consciousness without the division of form, time, and space.

Theology has nothing to do with spirituality. Advaita is pure spirituality. The theological Advaita has nothing to do with the Advaitic wisdom, which is based on the Spirit or Atman. 

Theological Advaita is conceptual having its own doctrine has nothing to do with the Gnanic Advaita because Gnanic Advaita is Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.

Both approaches are not workable together because the theological Advaita is based on the birth entity (ego)   Gnanic Advaita is based on the Atman (Soul).

Thus, the theological Advaita has to be discarded without mercy to get Advaitic Gnana.  

“Advaita” is a term used variously to express the unity of reality.  Advaita is unity in diversity.  

The seeker has to begin by defining "What is real?" "What is unreal?,   to establish Advaitic reality by sheer reasoning alone.   

Reasoning is the right way to realize the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space. People must first know what is the truth? and what is untruth’. 

For religion, you can interpret texts as you like, in whatever way that pleases you, you simply imagine away.

Sage Sankara’s Advaitic wisdom is not a teaching or philosophy but Advaita is the universal wisdom. Advaitic wisdom is neither a teaching nor a theory but it is merely guidance to those who are seriously seeking the ultimate truth or Brahman. 

Grasp the ultimate truth anytime, at any age, if the seeker has the spiritual maturity and capacity to grasp it. 

Sage  Sankara says: ~ VC-47   All the effects of ignorance, root, and branch, are burnt down by the fire of knowledge, which arises from discrimination between these two—the Self and the not-Self.

It really depends on his inborn natural capacity to understand and assimilate it.  Sage Sankara’s wisdom is a Self-examiner, to test oneself to discover how near to Gnana he has approached what progress has already been made on the path, and what still remains to be done.  It sets up a criterion for Self-judgement.   There are millions in search of truth but one in a million will be able to grasp it.

Without Sage Sankara, there is no Advaita (nonduality).  Since people believe Advaitic orthodoxy is the tool to acquire Advaitic wisdom there is a lot of confusion. Advaitic orthodoxy has nothing to do with Advaitic wisdom of Sage Sankara.

I am highlighting all the obstacles, which is blocking one from realizing the ultimate truth or Brahman. There are so many non-dualistic masters of the East and also from the West who expound the Advaitic or non-dualistic knowledge but none of them are helpful to reach the ultimate end.

One has to know and realize his innermost Self is the Soul and identify it as his true identity to find liberation from the bondage of the illusion of birth, life, death, and world(duality).   The goal of our life is to find and realize our identity with our Soul, which is the Self. 

Sage Sankara said:~ Neither by the practice of yoga nor philosophy, nor by good works nor by learning, does liberation come, but only through the realization that Atman and Brahman are one in no other way. (1) Vivekachoodamani v 56, pg. 25

To come to a more precise understanding of what non-duality is or might mean, we must return to the original linguistic and philosophic backgrounds from which the word has been translated into English.

 If we limit a probe of the meaning of non-duality to Hindu Sanskrit literature, we find that the most frequently used term is “Advaita.

Advaita” is not a religious concept.  Advaita is the nature of the existence hidden by the form, time, and space.   The seeker has to attempt to rule out from the start a false understanding of reality by a perfect understanding of ‘what is what’.

The Advaita is hidden by the Dvaita. Advaita is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. Dvaita is the universe.

Advaita is basically a denial; it is literally the negation of the Dvaita.  That means whatever remains by negating the universe by realizing the universe is created out of single clay and that clay is the Soul, which is present in the form of the consciousness, the hidden truth by Dvaita uncovered.  The consciousness is the cause of the universe and it, itself is uncaused.
Remember: ~
The proof is the main thing in pursuit of truth.

“How God can exist without man’s existence?”

How can the world exist without man’s existence?

Thus, man has to exist first to say God and the world exists. Thus, the seeker has to verify his own existence to realize the fact that, all three states are unreal, from the standpoint of the Soul, the ‘Self.
God is universal because God is impersonal. God does not belong to any religion because religious Gods are personal.
How can you see God without knowing what God is in actuality?  When the ‘Self is not you how can you find God within you? God is not within you. Those who say God is within you just propagating half-baked knowledge.

 First, realize the ‘Self is not within you. You are bound by the experience of the birth, life, death, and the world whereas the ‘Self is birthless and deathless because it is ever formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

The Soul is the  Self. The Soul is present in the form of Consciousness.  Consciousness is the cause of the world in which you exist and it, itself is uncaused.  Consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God in truth. 

From the standpoint of the Soul, the  Self the world in which you exist is merely an illusion.  Thus, the world in which exists hides the Soul, which is the real God. 
Till you think the ‘Soul, the innermost Self’ is within you, you will never be able to realize God. God is not limited to you but it pervades in everything and everywhere in the world in which you exist.
Bhagavad Gita says: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham-  Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material (Gita 14.27)

If God is Spirit, then how does the man know God created the world? There is no proof. If man had seen God creating the world, he could admit it, but how could he have seen God before he came into existence? (i.e. were created).

The Spirit is the root element of the universe. The Spirit is present in the form of the Soul, the innermost Self. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness. 

From the Spirit, the universe comes into existence. In the Spirit, the universe resides. And into the Spirit, the universe is dissolved. The Spirit is the parent of all that is there is. 

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~ Brahman (God) is present in the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself’.

Thus it refers to a formless and attributeless God, which is the Atman (Soul), the  ‘Self’ within the false experience. Thus it indicates clearly all the Gods with form and attributes are mere imaginations based on the false ‘Self’.  Thus, Atman or Soul, the ‘Self’ is God in truth.

Sage  Sankara’s Supreme Brahman is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal, and Akarta (non-agent). It is above all needs and desires. It is always the Witnessing Subject. It can never become an object as it is beyond the reach of the senses. Brahman is non-dual, one without a second. It has no other besides it. It is destitute of difference, either external or internal. Brahman cannot be described because the description implies a distinction. Brahman cannot be distinguished from any other than It. In Brahman, there is not a distinction between substance and attribute. Sat-Chit-Ananda constitutes the very essence or Svarupa of Brahman, and not just Its attributes. The Nirguna Brahman of Sage Sankara is impersonal.

The God you see and meet and in your vision is not God in truth but a hallucination.
How can you see and meet God without knowing what God is in actuality? Praying and meditating on God without knowing what God really is, leads to hallucination.    The world in which you exist hides God. Thus, Self-realization is necessary to realize ‘what God is in actuality.  : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Remember the eastern and western Advaitic Gurus and their ‘I-centric' teachings are not the Advaitic wisdom of Sage Sankara.+


Many of the seekers from the west are not even aware of the fact that without Sage  Sankara there is no Advaita and they think the ‘I-centric Gurus and their half-baked teaching as pure Advaita. Such seekers are emotionally and sentimentally believe that their accepted guru and their Gurus teaching as ultimate and remain in the prison of ignorance. Such a mindset is not fir to acquire the Advaitic wisdom of Sage Sri, Sankara.  

Loud speech consisting of a shower of words, the skill in expounding the Scriptures, and likewise erudition - these merely bring on a little personal enjoyment to the Gurs but are no good for acquiring the Advaitic wisdom of Sage  Sankara

The teachings consisting of many words are a dense forest which merely causes the mind to ramble. Hence the seeker should earnestly set about knowing the true nature of the Self.

The most valuable contribution of Sage Sankara is that he gained general consciousness on the issue that the authoritative explanation of Upanishads, Gita, and Brahma Sutra was the final say in the matter of religion. Anything that goes contrary to the trio is not authentic. Sage Sankara also made a clear distinction between Vedas and Upanishads in his commentary on Gita. 

All the 'I-centric' teachings are physical-based knowledge is good in the practical life within the practical world but the'I-centric' teachings are not Self-knowledge. 

Self-knowledge is the ultimate knowledge to realize the universe is created out of single stuff and that single stuff is the Soul which is present in the form of consciousness.  Thus, there is no second thing exist other than the consciousness because the whole physical existence is created out of consciousness. 

The world is both real and unreal. It is real because it is a manifestation of consciousness, but is unreal, in the sense, that it is not absolute and eternal like consciousness itself.

People's approach is more practical, and they stuck with the reality of the world, they take it as real. That is why all the confusion.

In Self-awareness-- the witness and witnessed are one in essence. That essence is consciousness. There is no second thing exists other than consciousness.

Thus whatever seen, known, believed and experienced as a person is a reality within the waking experience (duality) but waking experience (duality) itself is merely an illusion or Maya. 

You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, none can make you spiritual. There is no other teacher but your own Soul.”

Sage Sankara was criticized for his views on Maya (illusion) without understanding him.

Sage Sri, Sankara said: ~

(1) Brahman (Atman) is real

(2) The universe is unreal, and

 (3) Brahman is the universe.

He did not stop at the second because the third explains the other two. It signifies that the universe is real if perceived as the ‘Self’ and unreal if perceived as apart from the Self. Hence Maya or illusion and reality are one and the same. 

The realists criticize the concept of illusion without understanding it. He said that:~

(1) Consciousness (Atman) is real

(2) The universe or mind is unreal

(3) Consciousness is the universe because the universe is merely an illusion created out of consciousness.  

One need not stop at the second because the third explains the other two. It signifies that the universe is real if perceived as the Self (Atman or consciousness) and unreal if perceived as apart from the Self (consciousness). Hence illusion and reality are one and the same because both are one in essence.  

Realizing the essence, which is consciousness as the Self, is Self-Realization or Truth-Realization of God-realization. Thus, Sage Sankara‘s declaration is rational truth, scientific truth, and also the ultimate truth. 

Sage Sankara stated that the Karma Kanda of the Vedas deals with the injunctions relating to the performance of duties and actions. These are for ordinary householders. 

That is why Sage Goudapada said: ~ “The merciful Veda teaches karma and Upaasana to people of lower and middling intellect, while Advaitic Gnana is taught to those of higher intellect.  Sage Goudapada suggests that the religious paths and worship of the Gurus and conceptual God are lower and middling intellect. 

In this modern world, people are sharp enough to understand and assimilate the ultimate truth or Brahman or God. Thus people who want the ultimate truth then it is high time to discard the lower knowledge and move ahead to realize the ultimate truth, which is Brahman or God.  

Remember:~

Sage Sankara says: ~ ‘The path of religion, the path of yoga and the path of wisdom were intended for different classes of people. The wisdom is for the advanced seekers of truth. It deals with the nature of the ultimate Truth and Reality. It is meant for superior aspirants who have an inner urge to know the truth and it is not for those who are immersed in earthly desires. 

Sage Sankara’s whole wisdom can be summed up in one sentence, ‘There is nothing else but Brahma. He says that the Absolute Existence, Absolute Knowledge, and Absolute Bliss is Real. The universe is not real. He says that Brahma and Atman are one. The ultimate and the Absolute Truth is the Self, which is one though appearing as many in different individuals. The individual has no reality. Only the Self is real; the rest, mental and physical are but passing appearances. 

In fact, Sage Sankara states a paradox- the world is and is not. It is neither real nor unreal. It leads us to recognize the existence of Maya. He thinks that the world is illusory from one perspective and from the second it is nothing but Brahma, Itself in manifestation. This apparent world is Maya and has its basis in Brahman, the Eternal. It looks as real. It has names and forms and actually, it is not real In the light of true knowledge, it disappears and 'Self' alone shines as real. However, Sage  Sankara’s Mayavada has not been accepted by many preachers and philosophers. 

When Sage Sankara says clearly, the universe is not real. He says that Brahman and Atman are one. The ultimate and the Absolute Truth is the Self, which is one though appearing as many in different individuals. The individual has no reality. Only the Self is Real; the rest, mental and physical are but passing appearances, then it indicates the form (waking/duality/mind) is unreal the formless is real (Soul/Spirit/Witness). Therefore, only Atman is real because there is no second thing other than Atman. 

Sage Sankara says: ~ “The exercise in discrimination between real and unreal and renunciation of the false is real meditation, then why you are indulging in other types of meditation. 

Chandogya Upanishad:~ One who meditates upon and realizes the 'Self' discovers that everything in the cosmos-- energy and space, fire and water, name and form, birth and death, mind and will, word and deed, mantrams and meditation--all come from the Self.

Those who lack the intelligence to discriminate between subject and the object will not be able to grasp what is real and what is unreal. Both subject and object are the consciousness, not subject alone.

The subject is the Soul, the Spirit and object is the ‘I’ the matter. The Soul, the Self is the Spirit. The Soul, the Self is the subject. The ‘I’ the universe is the matter. 

Unless you realize ‘what is the subject?’ and ‘what is the object’? -  ‘you will never be able to unfold the mystery hidden by the ‘I’.

You have been misled by the eastern and western Advaitic Gurus and their ‘I-centric teachings you are unable to grasp the ‘Self’ hidden by the ‘I’. 

The ‘Self' hidden by the ‘I’ means the Spirit hidden by the matter. Remember the eastern and western Advaitic Gurus and their ‘I-centric teachings are not the Advaitic wisdom of Sage  Sankara.
 
Sage  Sankara says: ~What is accepted without proper inquiry will not lead a person to the final goal. On the contrary, such acceptance will result only in evil, in something which is detrimental to our spiritual progress. 

Unless you drop all eastern and western Advaitic Gurus and their ‘I-centric teachings you will not be able to acquire the Advaitic wisdom of Sage Sankara who is the founder of the Advaitic wisdom.

Being means a thing is. How do you know this world exists? How do you know that you exist in this world? It is the ‘Self; the witness that gives you the idea of being in the world. Apart from the Soul, the ‘Self’  you never realize that there is such a thing as being.

The first step in is to distinguish between the real and the unreal.  That is to know about the dual and nondual experience.  The seeker has to discrimination between real and unreal. It means separating the subject from the object through deeper analysis.

Remember:~

The real is the subject and the unreal is an object. The Advaitic Gurus of the east and west cannot think of the subject because they are unaware of the fact that the subject is hidden by the object.  Unless you drop

Without the subject, there is no object.  The subject can stay without the object whereas the object is fully dependent on the subject for its existence because the object is nothing but an illusion created out of the subject.

The subject contained in the object. The consciousness cannot be apart from the object because the object is merely an illusion. Thus, the objective illusion has no value because it is non-existent without consciousness. 

The dualists regard objects as a reality because they are ignorant have no idea of a subject and hence never seek for it.  From the  Advaitic perspective, the object is also regarded as the subject because the object is nothing but an illusion created out of the subject. 

The ice will not form without the water, the cloud will not for without the water, similarly the world, in which you exist cease to exist without consciousness. 

The world, in which you exist, is created out of a single stuff.  The Knowledge of the single stuff is Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. 

The world in which we exist is an object to the Soul, which is the formless subject.   The object is created out of the subject.  

In reality, the subject and object are one, in essence. That essence is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. 

Thus, the world in which we exist is nothing but consciousness, which is the subject. Thus, the subject alone is real and eternal, the world in which we exist is merely an illusion. 

From the standpoint of the Soul, the Self, there is neither the object nor the subject, there is unity in diversity. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Friday, September 29, 2017

Yogic Samadhi is not Advaitic wisdom of Sage Sankara.+


Sage Sankara in the commentary to "Brahma Sutras:- " "The highest beatitude is not to be attained by Yoga." (Sacred Books of East Series page 298 Vol.1.)  

Sage  Sankara says: ~Yoga is not the means of liberation (page 132-133 - Commentary on Brihadaranyakopanishad).

If yogis practice Yoga up to the limit and extent of getting a strong and concentrative mind, and to be able to think of particular subjects, it is good; beyond that, if they begin to weaken their mind and accept what they imagine as real, they begin to go insane.  The famous commentator on the key text The Manduka Upanishad.

Panchadesi: - the impossibility of yoga arrives at a successful end to its practices. (P.509 v, 109)

Yoga belief is a self-mesmeric condition out of which it is extremely difficult to escape. Yogic and mystic experiences are imaginations projected outwards as the dreamer projects his dream visions.

Bhagavan Buddha gave up his austerities of yoga as impossible and useless. (Page.70/71 "Buddhism in Translation” by Warren)

Bhagavan Buddha got enlightenment only after he gave up Yoga. Unless one exercises his reason--there is no chance of getting the truth.

When the yogi enters this highest Nirvikalpa (effort-less) Samadhi, he will at once enter deep sleep. This will make plain to him after he wakes, that the inner ‘Self’ he sought and found, the Atman, is reached only when all his ideas are refunded into it, when there is then all the features of non-duality, one without a second. However, the yogi must later wake up, emerge from Samadhi and there is duality again, for the world of objects confronts him. So now he has to work on the next stage which is to find consciously in the waking experience the same non-duality that he unconsciously knew in sleep. This is done by learning that a universe is an object for the formless subject, and then refunding the universe ~idea back into its source, which is the Soul, which is present in the form of the consciousness. Only at this final stage dare, he says "Atman, which is present in the form of the consciousness, is the same as the Brahman. Brahman is the ultimate truth.  Now he is fully aware of it.

All yogic visions, however, wonderful will pass away; they go as they come. They have the value of dreams. They are not the truth which is un-passing and beyond changes.

One can’t shut his eye to the universe, which confronts him as in Samadhi of yoga and see supreme reality. One can know it only by keeping himself clear and open.

 Sage  Sankara:  The yogi must add discrimination to his quest.

Nirvikalpa Samadhi and deep sleep are the same from the standpoint of the Soul, the innermost ‘‘Self’’ the absence of the known. The knower was there.

How does Yogic Samadhi give Gnana? Only by preparing yourself to see that the world disappears and re-appears and, that non-duality is here and duality there, to convince the man that in non-duality one won't disappear as he doesn't disappear in Samadhi or deep sleep. Another advantage of Samadhi is one gets the capacity to forget the external world and to treat it as an idea.

Yoga can never give you the fundamental thing, that the world is an illusion. Only Gnana can give it. 

Nirvikalpa Samadhi is unquestionably the same as deep sleep, and all ideas are refunded back there too. One must learn what ideas are when all the ideas of the universe-existence go back into one’s mind through Yoga. Then one learns this. How has he to learn that the entire universe is consciousness or Brahman if he stops at Nirvikalpa Samadhi? Without perceiving the universe, and having a duality before him, it is impossible.

Nirvikalpa has no duality, hence it cannot tell you about the universe. The yogi who emerging from Samadhi and says he found Gnana there, says it to a second person, hence there is duality again. If he were a real Gnani, there would be nobody for him to tell that he had experienced Gnana.
‘Self’-knowledge will interest only a few people; the rest are interested in Religion, yoga other paths, and pleasure hunting.  : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Sage Sankara says God (Brahman) is impersonal then what is the use of worshiping personal Gods, which are not God in truth.+


Sage Sankara says God (Brahman)  is impersonal then what is the use of worshiping personal Gods, which are not God in truth.

Yogis and Gurus are not Gods.   Vedas say those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, humans and the like in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.

This idea of worshiping Gurus is not a Vedic idea but adopted from Jainism and Buddhism. 

Sage Sankara’s Supreme Brahman (God in truth) is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal and Akarta (non-agent). It is above all needs and desires. It is always the Witnessing Subject. It can never become an object as it is beyond the reach of the senses. Brahman is non-dual, one without a second. It has no other beside it. It is destitute of difference, either external or internal. Brahman cannot be described because the description implies a distinction. Brahman cannot be distinguished from any other than It. In Brahman, there is not a distinction between substance and attribute. Sat-Chit-Ananda constitutes the very essence or Svarupa of Brahman, and not just its attributes. The Nirguna Brahman of Sage  Sankara is impersonal.

Sage Sankara says God is impersonal then what is the use of worshipping personal Gods, which are not God in truth. The existence of the personal Gods is limited to the domain of the dualistic illusion. Without the dualistic illusion, they cease to exist. Worshipping anything, which belongs to the dualistic illusion, is worshipping the ignorance. Sage Sankara says Atman is Brahman (God in truth) therefore nothing has to be accepted as God other than the Atman.

Religious Gods are not God in truth. Bible says “God is a Spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Rig Veda says may ye never accept another God in place of the Atman (Spirit) nor worship other than the Atman.

When there is a clear idea of what is supposed to be God then why worship which is not God. 

In Vedas, God has been described as ~

v  Sakshi (Witness)
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v  Chetan (conscious)
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v  Nirguna (Without form and properties).
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v  Nitya (eternal)
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v  Shuddha (pure)
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v  Buddha (omniscient)
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v  Mukta (unattached).

So, it clearly indicates that God is formless thus there is no scope for the form-based God. The religion and its ideas of Gods, and its theories of karma, heaven, hell, papa, Punya, rebirth, reincarnation are based on the false ‘Self’ (ego), within the false experience (waking). Therefore, they are meant for lower mindset, they are of no use for those who are seeking higher truth as indicated in the scriptures.  

Vedas bars human worship: ~

"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time."- (Yajur Veda 40:9.)

Then why worship and glorify the Gurus and Yogis (human form)   in place of God when Veda bars such activities and  it also warns people who indulge in such activities are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.

Remember:~ 

Religion can never make you know God because it propagates the belief as God. Only an intense urge to know what God supposed to be in truth can make you realize God.   

The Soul, the ‘Self is the Infinite God.  

The Soul is the Self. God is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. God in truth is the fullness of consciousness without the illusory division of form, time and space.  Therefore, there is nothing apart from it.  

God in truth is Self-evident. God in truth is not established by extraneous proofs. It is not possible to deny God in truth because God in truth is the very essence of the one who denies it. God in truth is the basis of all kinds of knowledge, presuppositions, and proofs. God in truth is within the universe in which you exist, the God in truth is without the universe in which you exist.  

The Vedas confirms God is Atman (Spirit), the Self. 

Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman the innermost self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5) 

Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma'- Consciousness is the ultimate reality, or Brahman, or God in truth.

Do not accept any other truth other than consciousness. Consciousness is the ultimate truth. Nothing is real but consciousness.

Realize consciousness as the ultimate truth, or Brahman, or God in truth. Consciousness is everywhere and in everything. Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

Yajurveda – chapter- 32:~ God is  Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ (idol) or material shape. God cannot be seen directly by anyone. God pervades all beings and all directions. Thus, Idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas. 

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~ Brahman (God in truth) is the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself. 

People, who worship the belief of God, are hallucinating that they become one with such God. 

Vedas itself says: May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman? Thus, to know the real God Self-realization is necessary. Self-realization is God realization. Self-realization itself is real worship. 

How can you worship God? That implies two ~ the worshipper and the worshiped, whereas   God is nondual. One can worship his idea of God only or realize his unity with it when he can’t worship it as apart. 

When Upanishads and Vedas declare that, “God is the form of the Athma, and God is indeed Athma itself” then why to accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman. 

God is the Supreme Being the One eternal homogeneous essence, indivisible consciousness and intelligence, which is beyond the form, time, and space. To which the Sages describe in a variety of ways through diverse words. 

Bhagavad Gita: ~ ‘All those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship many Gods. (7- Verse -20) 

Only the path of wisdom leads the seeker of truth on his journey to the ultimate realization of the true nature of the Universal Essence, which is the Soul. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness. 

Bhagavad Gita: 7: 19:~  Atman (God) alone exists~ everything is Atman, there exists nothing except Atman.  

The Bhagavad Gita: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham ~ Brahman (God in truth) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27). 

When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness. 

Lord Krishna Says Ch ~V: ~ “Those who know the ‘Self’ in truth.". The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.  

The dualistic worship of "God” is only for the ignorant populace. The God in truth is only Atman, the innermost Self. In reality, there is no duality, no differentiation. Only Atman exists. 

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad IV-13:~As a mass of salt has neither inside nor outside, but is entirely a mass of taste, thus indeed, has that Self neither inside nor outside but is altogether a mass of Knowledge. Just as a lump of salt has inside as well as outside one and the same saltish taste, not any other taste, so also that Brahman (consciousness) has inside as well as outside one and the same intelligence. Inside and outside are mental creations only. When the mind melts in silence, ideas of inside and outside vanish. The sages’ cognizes one illimitable, homogeneous mass of consciousness only.

Causality taught in the Upanishads is only to enable us to understand the supreme truth of no-origination. The world is not different from the consciousness and the consciousness is not different from the Soul, the innermost Self, and the Soul is not different from the ultimate truth or Brahman. That the consciousness appears as a diverse world is only an illusion. If it really became diverse than the immortal would become mortal. 

The dualists who seek to prove the origination of the unborn, by that very enterprise try to make the immortal, mortal. Ultimate nature can never change - the immortal can never become mortal and vice versa. 

Sage  Goudapada quotes from the Upanishads: ~ "There's no plurality here"; "The Soul through its powers appears to be many"; "those who are attached to the creation or production or origination go to utter darkness"; "the unborn is never reborn, for what can produce it?” . : ~ Santthosh Kumaar