Wednesday, September 27, 2017

People are ignorant of the God in Vedas even though they speak of Vedas. There is no reference to the personal Gods in Vedas.+


People are ignorant of God in Vedas even though they speak of Vedas. There is no reference to the personal Gods in Vedas.   
God is universal because God is impersonal. God does not belong to any religion because religious Gods are personal.
Religious Gods are not God in truth. Bible says “God is a Spirit, and they that worship God must worship God in spirit and in truth. Rig Veda says may ye never accept another God in place of the Atman (Spirit) nor worship other than the Atman. Yajurveda says God cannot be seen directly by anyone. God pervades all beings and all directions.

Yajur Veda says: ~ ‘They sink deeper in darkness those who worship Sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc.  (Yajur Veda 40:9)

Those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." (Yajur Veda 40:9.)

When the religion of the Veda knows no idols then why so many Gods and Goddesses with different forms and name are being propagated as Vedic Gods. Why these conceptual Gods are introduced when the Vedic concept of God is free from form and attributes.

The Atman, God lies beyond the illusory experience of form, time and space, because it is prior to any experience. 

What is the use of arguing with religious believers?  They think what they know as the ultimate truth. 

Whatever is real in the world in which we exist is God. All that is real in the world we exist is the Soul, the Self. 

Thus, by realizing the Self, which is the Soul, we discover the Soul, which is present in the form of the consciousness itself is God which is hidden by the ‘I’, which is the dualistic illusion. 

Sage Sankara’s Supreme Brahman is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal and Akarta (non-agent). It is above all needs and desires. It is always the Witnessing Subject. It can never become an object it is beyond the reach of the senses. Brahman is non-dual, one without a second. It has no other beside it. It is destitute of difference, either external or internal. Brahman cannot be described because the description implies a distinction. Brahman cannot be distinguished from any other than It. In Brahman, there is not a distinction between substance and attribute. Sat-Chit-Ananda constitutes the very essence or Svarupa of Brahman, and not just Its attributes. The Nirguna Brahman of Sage  Sankara is impersonal .

One must know God in truth. There is a difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God. 

Vedas say God is Supreme Spirit has not the idol or the material shape because God is ever formless, timeless and spaceless existence.  God cannot be seen directly by anyone.  God pervades all beings and all directions.

The idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas.  All idolatry Gods are based on Puranic concepts. Thus on Vedic perspective, all the gods and Goddesses believed and worshiped, are not God in truth. 

There is no scope for belief-based God because the belief is not God.  The religion and its ideas of Gods are based on the false self (ego), within the false experience (waking). Thus, whatever beliefs based on the false ‘Self’ is bound to be a falsehood. 

Ishopanishad says: ~ “They are steeped in ignorance and sunk into the greatest depth of misery who worships the matter, instead of the All-Pervading God and those who worship things born of matter like trees, animals, man, etc. are sunk deeper in misery." 

The Vedas talk about Brahman which refers to the ultimate truth or ultimate reality. Consciousness is the ultimate truth, therefore, consciousness is Brahman or God in truth. 

Vedas do not permit idol worship. All the idols are of the Puranic Gods priests are referring to the Puranic Brahma as God they are ignorant of the God in Vedas even though they speak of Vedas. 

Priests need to understand the meaning of the Brahman, which is present in the form of the Athma or the consciousness. 

The Vedas confirms God is Atman (Spirit), the Self.

Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman, the Self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

Yajurveda – chapter- 32:~ God is Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ (idol) or material shape. God cannot be seen directly by anyone. God pervades all beings and all directions. 

Thus, Idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas.

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~Brahman (God in truth) is the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself. 

The Bhagavad Gita: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham ~ Brahman (God in truth) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27). 

When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness. 

Lord Krishna Says Ch ~V: ~Those who know the Self in truth." The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.

The dualistic worship of "God” is only for the ignorant populace. The God in truth is only Atman, the Self.   In reality, there is no duality, no differentiation. Only Atman exists.

How can you worship God? That implies two ~ the worshipper and the worshipped, whereas God is nondual. One can worship his idea of God only or realize his unity with it when he can’t worship it as apart.

When Upanishads and Vedas declare that, “God is the form of the Athma, and God is indeed Athma itself” then why to accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman.

They are steeped in ignorance and sunk into the greatest depth of misery who worships the matter, instead of the All-Pervading  Spirit (God in truth)  and those who worship things born of matter like trees, animals, man, etc. are sunk deeper in misery."

Bhagavad Gita Chapter:~  ‘All those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship many Gods. (7- Verse -20) 

The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad declares: "He who worships the deities as entities entirely separate from him does not know the truth. For the Gods, he is like a pasu (beast)". (1. 4. 10)

Yajurveda says:~

Translation 1
They enter darkness, those who worship natural things (for example air, water, sun, moon, animals, fire, stone, etc.).

They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc.) (Yajurveda 40:9)

Translation 2

"Deep into the shade of blinding gloom fall asambhuti's worshippers. They sink to darkness deeper yet who on Sambhuti are intent."(Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith pg. 538)

Translation 3

"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." (Yajur Veda 40:9.)

So, Yajur Veda indicates that:~

They sink deeper in darkness those who worship Sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc.  (Yajur Veda 40:9)

Those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." (Yajur Veda 40:9.)

When the religion of the Veda knows no idols then why so many Gods and Goddesses with different forms and name are being propagated as Vedic Gods. Why these conceptual Gods are introduced when the Vedic concept of God is free from form and attributes.
The Atman, God lies beyond the illusory experience of form, time, and space, because it is prior to any experience. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

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