Q:~ NY: Please can you explain who is it that has to have a perfect understanding of what is what if the I is illusory? And who gets the conviction about consciousness?
Santthosh Kumaar:~ The one which has the illusion and the one which is without the illusion is the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness.
In reality, the ‘I’ cease to exist. Limiting ‘I’ to an individual and trying to find out ‘Who am I?’ - will not reveal the ‘Self’ hidden by the ‘I’.
When the ‘Self’ is not an individual but the Soul the ‘Self’ is not an individual then what is the use of asking to whom is the illusion.
To who is the illusion? Who gets the thoughts, such a question arises only to those who think the Self is within the human heart.
Ignorant in his own ignorance ask “Who says, God?” “Who has this illusion?" “ Find out who has these thoughts? - without knowing such a question arises within the dualistic illusion or Maya (I). The dualistic illusion or Maya is present in the form of the universe. The universe is the product of ignorance. Without ignorance, the universe ceases to exist as a reality.
The universe hides God because the universe is merely an illusion created out of God, the Spirit, or the consciousness.
Swami Vivekananda: ~ “The wicked are always looking for defects. Flies come and seek the ulcer, and bees come only for the honey in the flower. Do not follow the way of the fly but that of the bee.
Instead of finding fault first realize what the Self is in actuality. Amazingly an honest introspection will reveal that all fault lies with “you” and “your "own perceptions and attitudes. If there is an error in understanding what 'Self' is in actuality it is in “you".
Correcting this and changing to a Soulcentric attitude will change your perception and then the Soul; the 'Self' will reveal its formless, timeless, and spaceless true nature.
First Mundaka - Chapter 2 (8) - Fools, dwelling in darkness, but wise in their own conceit and puffed up with vain scholarship, wander about, being afflicted by many ills, like blind men led by the blind.
Question and questioner and argument and arguer belong to the dualistic illusion or Maya (I).
Who am I? - is not Self-inquiry. Self-inquiry’ is finding out the ‘Self’ which is hidden by the ‘I’. The ‘I’ itself is ignorance. Ignorance is the cause of the dualistic illusion or Maya or the universe.
By inquiring ‘Who am I?’- the ignorance will not vanish. Without getting rid of ignorance, the Advaitic wisdom will not dawn. Without Advaitic wisdom, it is not possible to realize the truth, which is hidden by the dualistic illusion(I).
Remember: ~
The ‘I’ is the universe. Without the ‘I’ the universe ceases to exist. The Soul, the ‘Self’, and the universe are one in essence because the universe is nothing but an illusion created out of the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness.
This universe is only the veil of ignorance on the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness. The Self is not you but the Soul, which is hidden by the universe (I).
The Soul is hidden by the universe because the universe is merely a dualistic illusion or Maya created out of the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.
Sage Sankara: ~ VC~ All this universe which through ignorance appears as of diverse forms, is nothing else but Brahman (Consciousness) which is absolutely free from all the limitations of human thought.
When you finally realize the ‘‘Self’ ‘is not you but the ‘‘Self’’ is the Soul then you will realize the world in which you exist is merely an illusion created out of the Soul. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness.
Sage Sankara says :~VC-47- All the effects of ignorance, root, and branch, are burnt down by the fire of knowledge, which arises from discrimination between these two—the Self and the non-Self.
Remember: ~ All is consciousness. The whole universe is consciousness. From consciousness, the universe comes. When the universe disappears, consciousness still remains without form, time, and space
Till you think you are an individual separate from the world and the world existed prior to you and you are born in it afterward ignorance will prevail as a reality. Till ignorance is there the universe prevails as a reality. Until the universe prevails as a reality religion thrives.
Remember:~
The ‘Self’ noting permanent and the ‘I’, is impermanent. The ‘I’, which appears and disappears is not the Self. The Self is hidden by the ‘I’. the ‘I’ is perishable whereas the Self is imperishable.
That is why Bhagavad Gita: ~ “The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes. (2.18)
Why are you struggling to find out who you are? You will never find the answer if you get stuck to the ‘I’. Find out ‘what is this ‘I’, which appears and disappears. What is that is aware of the coming and going of the ‘I’?
Without realizing ‘What is this ‘I’?- you will never be able to realize the mystery of the ‘I’. The ‘I’ is the most intoxicating stuff. Those who use the word ‘I’ for the ‘Self ‘will never be able to cross the threshold of the dualistic illusion.
The ‘I’ based teachings will not transport the seeker to the ultimate end of understanding.
The ‘I’ is the cage for the Soul. ‘I’ is the cause of ignorance. Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is the only weapon to get rid of ignorance.
The ‘I’ based teachings will not transport the seeker to the ultimate end of understanding. A perfect understanding of ‘what is this ‘I’ leads to the realization of the truth beyond form, time, and space.
That is why Ashtavakra Gita 16:10:~ If you desire liberation, but you still say 'I'," If you feel the ‘Self’ is the ‘I’, you are not a wise man or a seeker. You are simply a man who suffers.
Remember
It is you who is born in this world. It is you who is living in this world. And it is you who is going to die in this world in the future. Your birth, life, death, and the world in which you exist is nothing to do with the Self because the Self is not you but the Soul, the unborn eternal.
The Soul, the Self is hidden by the world in which you exist. It is hidden because the world in which you exist is merely a dualistic illusion or Maya created out of the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of consciousness. Without consciousness, you and the world in which you exist cease to exist.
Whatever you have seen, known, believed, and experienced within this illusory world is nothing but an illusion created out of consciousness.
Consciousness is ever-present. Without consciousness, the world, in which you exist ceases to exist. Consciousness is Self-evident. It is not established by extraneous proof. It is not possible to deny consciousness, because it is the very essence of the one who denies it. Consciousness is the basis of all kinds of knowledge, presuppositions, and proofs. Consciousness is everything. Consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman.
Whatever you have seen, known, believed, and experienced as a person within the waking experience is bound to be an illusion created out of consciousness. Thus, the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness alone, is real and eternal. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar
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